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The Baytown Curmudgeon

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There is a fellow in Baytown who is constantly stirring up trouble with the city officials and really believes he is an advocate for the people.  He has tried repeatedly over the years to get me to right some wrong by using my newspaper column to strike the heart of some wrong doing.  Here is his latest effort:

 

From: Concerned citizen

Subject: Geocaching-Is it legal in Baytown Parks?

Dear Mr. Johnson,  According to Baytown's Code of Ordinances, litter is prohibited in Baytown Parks: Sec. 70-10. Litter.It shall be unlawful for any person within any public park, parkway, playground or any other public place for public recreation to dump, deposit or leave any litter, including but not limited to paper boxes, cans, rubbish, waste, garbage, refuse, brush, leaves, tires or any other trash.  How does this affect geocaching?  Note the attached Oct. 04 article from the Baytown Sun states that citizens are depositing geocaches in city parks.  Is this legal? Please advise.  Thanks. Concerned citizen

----  (http://baytownbert.blogspot.com/2013/10/geocaching-critters-and-me.html)

 

 

Yes, Geocaching is legal in Baytown Parks.  There are many hidden caches in our parks and a lot of people, many from out of town, go to our parks and look for the caches. The people that hide geocaches do a very good job of camouflaging the prize.  Unless you are looking for that specific item, you’re not going to see it.  I agree, litter is a major issue for the entire country, not just Baytown but I don’t consider hiding a prize as litter.  Generally, people that are involved with geocaching are park friendly and leave the area better than they found it.  Many times entire families are involved in the high tech game of hide and seek.   Anyway we can get people, young and old, outside and enjoy the outdoors is a good thing and geocaching is one of those ways. I recommend that you contact Baytown Bert and I would bet that he would be happy to let you tag along on one of his geocaching adventures. Scott Johnson - City of Baytown - Parks Superintendant

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Nice response from Mr Johnson. Can almost see him biting his tongue

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Bert I will repost this on the TXGA FB page tonight.  I think it's a good article. 

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Actually I was able to do it from my phone.  You are now statewide.  I did omit Mr. Hudgins email address as it was listed above so he does not get any hate mail.  You might want to do the same.

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I did actually write his name.  oops.  Hope that doesn't hurt. 

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He doesn't hide his name.  He actually thinks he's right about everything.

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I think we should let the guy and Mr. Roman what's-his-name (the brainchild behind the failed Muggled.net endeavor) get together and have a celebrity smackdown. Fight to the death kind of thing all gladiator style....  They could do it in the name of anti-geocaching and even charge for the event to raise money for anti-geocaching. Okay, maybe I'm taking this too far in my head... :D  

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I would argue to this man that Deer Park Parks & Recreation Dept supports caching so much they have their own account & sponsored hides, (which I thoroughly enjoyed). Why should Baytown not support it when Deer Park encourages it?

 

Although a part of me is curious: Why does this man have a bone to pick with you?

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He doesn't.  He complains about everything and we are well acquainted.

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I know the type...professional complainers. As a quality manager, I run into these types in both my personal AND professional life more often than I'd like to say. All I can say is "ugh" about it...

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Our first cache was in a local park and enjoyed by a few dozen cachers until a local concerned citizen worried that it might bring people to the park after hours and took it upon himself to muggle the cache twice before I archived it. He made a point to brag about what he had done to several neighbors, who mentioned it to me.

Just after we placed the cache he sat in on the annual meeting and had the park hour shortened to 8am - 8pm (he was one of the only ones at the meeting). Think about that...a neighborhood park you could not visit in the summertime until it was too hot to walk and had to leave before it cooled off in the evenings, even though it was still light. One neighbor was ticketed twice (after two warnings) for walking his dogs at 8:45pm in July. The sun wasn't even down yet!!!

Cooler heads have prevailed and it now has the usual dawn to dusk notice, but geeeesh, some people.

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Too bad the superintendent didn't mention CITO events. Also a photo of the geocaching road that was adopted would have been nice too.

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The Goose Creek Trail is patrolled daily by a non-active geocacher who CITO's it and the city put up a sign which states he cleans it.  This guy is nothing more than a self-righteous blowhard.  I've told him this on more than one occasion.

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Bert, it is good that you responded professionally to the gentleman's query. There are lots of people out there like him that do represent a threat to geocaching if we don't take these questions seriously and respond to them in a timely and non-confrontational manner. It amazes me how easy it is for the masses to rapidly rally behind such an innocuous and uninformed statement or opinion, sometimes making correction very difficult. "It's not what you say...it's what people hear"

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Bert, it is good that you responded professionally to the gentleman's query. There are lots of people out there like him that do represent a threat to geocaching if we don't take these questions seriously and respond to them in a timely and non-confrontational manner. It amazes me how easy it is for the masses to rapidly rally behind such an innocuous and uninformed statement or opinion, sometimes making correction very difficult. "It's not what you say...it's what people hear"

 

You sound like a public relations guy...oh wait, you ARE a public relations guy :D

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