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TEXAS CHALLENGE 2016

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I like the MOGA rules about no vehicles.  If we could keep the competitors walking, it would be much easier to keep people from leaving early.

 

I agree about GBP possibly being under water or very wet.  March is usually the wettest part of the year.

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Throwing some more location idea out there:

 

Pasadena Municipal Fairgrounds

Fort Bend County Fairgrounds (Rosenburg)

Brazoria County Fairgrounds (Angleton)

Montgomery County Fairgrounds (Conroe)

 

All of these places probably have large pavilions similar to Bastrop, and lots of parking.

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We are not in Favor of GBP either for a Texas challenge- we would not compete in that park....There are a lot of great state parks that could work...and all our state parks could use the boost with the funds that have been cut over the years.... with the amount of geo  campers that come and hotels that have been built..Galveston state park could work... it could be a urban/state park combo challenge and if they ever split the challenge into novice and experienced, could be a great venue with beach and woods...... just an opinion....

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I like the idea of Galveston. There is a good variety of caching environments in the area. It's a longer drive for most in the state though.

Out of curiosity, what locations has SETX hosted the event in the past?

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Now I see this thread about MOGA...

Agree that TXGA should look into that. Bert - as rep this is now ur job.

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To facilitate people traveling from the far side of the State, I think the location being central would be a terrific concession.  How about Brenham.  they are very enthused with the idea of geocaching and would welcome the 500+ people.

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I like the idea of Galveston. There is a good variety of caching environments in the area. It's a longer drive for most in the state though.

Out of curiosity, what locations has SETX hosted the event in the past?

Huntsville SP, Brazos Bend SP and Huntsville SP. 

 

http://vb.texasgeocaching.com/content.php?2-texas-challenge&tabid=40

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We are not in Favor of GBP either for a Texas challenge- we would not compete in that park....There are a lot of great state parks that could work...and all our state parks could use the boost with the funds that have been cut over the years.... with the amount of geo  campers that come and hotels that have been built..Galveston state park could work... it could be a urban/state park combo challenge and if they ever split the challenge into novice and experienced, could be a great venue with beach and woods...... just an opinion....

 

I agree that the State Parks are great places to hold the event, however, let me say just a couple of negative things...

 

1.  For the 2011 TC in Huntsville, the park staff had to approve every single cache placement inside the park, and were fairly restrictive about staying close to the trails.  Also, a control burn the week before the challenge, took out about 1/4 of the caches that had already been placed.  The hide team really had to scramble to get those reset elsewhere.

 

2.  For the 2007 TX in Brazos Bend, the Brazos river flooded just a day before the Challenge, so there was not time to reset the placement of caches.

I checked caches on the day before and all was fine, however on the day of the challenge, the water level had continued to rise and some places were cut off by waist deep water.  

 

On the positive side, Huntsville provides close access to the Lone Star Hiking trails.

Maybe there could be an activity cache at "Old Sparky" ....   :startled:

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1.  For the 2011 TC in Huntsville, the park staff had to approve every single cache placement inside the park, and were fairly restrictive about staying close to the trails.  Also, a control burn the week before the challenge, took out about 1/4 of the caches that had already been placed.  The hide team really had to scramble to get those reset elsewhere.

Huntsville SP (in 2011) also wanted all the cache locations a couple of months ahead of time, so they could vet them, but wouldn't let us acutally place the caches until 6 days prior to the challenge. Originally, they wanted us to place the caches TWO DAYS before the challenge, but we convinced them that we all had lives and couldn't be driving to Huntsville mid-week to do this. I think they were the most restrictive host when it came to cache-hiding that we've ever dealt with.

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OK.  So state parks are cool, and I like to support them, too, but they may be too restricitve and/or not as accommodating for the masses.  What are our 'boundaries'?  I know we can go farther out than BBSP or Huntsville SP, but it makes it more comlplicated for the hide teams and scouting out areas if it's not relatively close by. 

 

How about coming up with a list of possible target locations (areas that have some level of city life with things to do / see / stay) in which people were interested in having the Challenge.  Then everyone could come up with specific ideas for GZ locations and/or hide areas around the target location. 

 

Then we can have several sets of ideas to compare.  So if someone was interested in the College Station area, maybe, then ideas could come in around that that would work for both a HQ area and hide areas that would (or would not) work.

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Eh. Maybe I didn't think that one through enough. Probably not enough room. I do like the Galveston state park idea

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My ideas is to have the "challenge" part of it be for the heavy hitters. Also have another event going on at the same time for the casual/newbie cachers similar to an urban race type this where people are in groups of 3-4 and are competing against other groups (not regions). Or have the urban race participants scores count in the final tally....

All of these are works in progress. I do want to split the competition into at least 2 activities.

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What about baytown nature center?

I don't think so. For one thing, they charge admission. There's no covered pavilion big enough to host the thing and not enough parking for 50 people, much less 500. It's a Nature Center and while they're happy with the geocaches currently in there, I don't think they want 500 people tearing through the flora looking for hides. IMHO.

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what?

 

I still vote Lake Houston Wilderness Park.  Granted it is in New Caney, but you can rent out the whole park, and by then the Grand Texas theme park with its several venues should be open - targeted to open end of 2015.  

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what?

 

I still vote Lake Houston Wilderness Park.  Granted it is in New Caney, but you can rent out the whole park, and by then the Grand Texas theme park with its several venues should be open - targeted to open end of 2015.  

That might be a good place.  Do they have any kind of pavilion there? 

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There is a group dining hall. I am not sure if 500 people could be inside it at once, tho. But then again, capacity at them lodge at Huntsville was only 200...but when you include outside space....

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OK. Here's my thoughts about LHWP

I spoke with one of the park managers and he said this would be a fantastic park to hold this event and I would have to agree. With that being said...

CHALLENGE - 

Limited to X number/team

Only have it bike/foot and no car

ONLY have it in LHWP

Can do a kayak section as well as "long hike in the woods" section

tape off a section in the picnic area near the dining hall (a couple of weeks ago an organizer did this for their 50K race. This we where the runners started)

 

URBAN RACE - (newbies/casual/urban)

Work in progress. I really like the Fredrickburg no team aspect of urban caching. I am looking into an app that is SIMILAR to whereigo-ish.

 

Someone said they had an idea on better scoring?? Please expand.

 

The manager said something about having the parking placards available at "packet pick up" and already have them paid for. They would be in each individual packet. Not sure how that would work but can be detailed at a later date.

 

Your thoughts?

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Does the TXGA have any say-so on the form of the competition for the Texas Challenge, or does the host team have carte blanche to set it up however they want?

In Fredericksburg, they had a 4-hour timed competition at Enchanted Rock for 2-4 person teams. The host team loaded all the GPSr's! Competing categories were broken down by sex and average age, that is, there was an under 20, 21-30, 31-40, 41-50, etc, male, female and co-ed groups. Winners were declared in each and the winning team members each won a geocoin. Also, turning in your scorecards after the deadline only resulted in a percentage deduction. It was something like a 10% deduction for 0-10 minutes late, 20% for 10-20 minutes late and DQ'd for over 20 minutes. There was only one turn-in point though. I don't remember hearing any complaints about cheating or unfair play, but I can be kind of ignorant about that stuff sometimes. Our team "More Cowbell" consisting of myself, ggmorton, skyrookie and Specialis Revelio (aka "Special Ravioli") won our coed age group.

Casual caching with "real" geocaches scattered all over Gillespie county was available for those that didn't care for the competitive part. There were ink stamps in each the casual cache that you would use to stamp a "passport". You turned the passport in at the event HQ to be in a raffle for some cool prizes. I tried to do both, but the competition took too much time away from the casual part and I wasn't able to get my passport turned in in time. Que sera, sera. Many of the casual caches are still there and take you to some neat historic spots in the area.
 

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