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Hiding a cache without finding one first

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I didn't expect to find the cache I looked for but there were others in the area that I was going for and I really wanted a hike.  My dog had a blast the entire time and didn't care that the coords were off.  :2funny:   I figured I could add to the log that TT had posted and hoped maybe something would be done or at least people would know that it's off and not make a trip just for it. 

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Here's one we found yesterday that fits the name of this thread -- Geogardening.  farmtwins have no finds and only this one hide, but it was well done and the coordinates and hints were great.  OK, the container could probably be a bit more robust, but it's somewhat sheltered and everything inside was in good shape.  I guess we can't judge all books by their cover!

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GC43NAB This is one that puzzles me. Several experienced cachers have DNF this one from the start but two cachers with 1 find and 20 finds found it and claimed it to be easy. I am even wondering if those profiles are real.. Even the cacher with 20 finds logged most of their caches in one day everywhere from Alvin, Pearland, Memorial, and the Heights.. all in one day and their first day...

Coords are obviously off as it puts you in the road.

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So last night I had 3 caches that got published within 6 miles of me, one of them less than a mile.  So when I saw that the one cache so close, at 2:30 am we jumped in the truck, but after 30 minutes didn't find it.  The closest to gz was about 85' but fence blocked our way. 

 

On the way home Scott was looking the co's profile and he started caching 10/13/12 has 44 finds and the 3 caches that just came out.

 

Looking at all 3 caches and google maps, the descriptions didn't match the map.

 

The one Ryan's Light  Simple lpc park and grab but looking at the map it was a wooded area.  I was telling Scott that with the name of Ryan's Light that it sounds like the cache should be cross I -45 in the parking lot of Ryan's.  So when Scott went to pick up dinner he stopped at Ryan's and checked each LP and yep I was right ... so the coords were about a mile off 

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Interesting read and this is why I much prefer to look for caches by experienced geocachers.

That is why some people have sockpuppet accounts to give others a chance for a FTF.

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What does this mean exactly?  If I wanted to give someone else a chance for a FTF, I simply would wait until someone else found it and then go look, right?

Interesting read and this is why I much prefer to look for caches by experienced geocachers.

That is why some people have sockpuppet accounts to give others a chance for a FTF.

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I'm taking it SP means that many will not go after a FTF from what they think is a newbie so someone like him will come up with a Sockpuppet account and those with that philosophy will miss out on the FTF and it will perhaps go to someone that doesn't get many FTFs.   I'm not sure if this is a valid theory or not, but there are some that won't go after an FTF of a cache by a newbie and let others be the guinea pigs. 

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GC43NAB This is one that puzzles me. Several experienced cachers have DNF this one from the start but two cachers with 1 find and 20 finds found it and claimed it to be easy. I am even wondering if those profiles are real.. Even the cacher with 20 finds logged most of their caches in one day everywhere from Alvin, Pearland, Memorial, and the Heights.. all in one day and their first day...

Coords are obviously off as it puts you in the road.

 I've seen this happen a number of times.  Of course, if you can't find it you can't see if anyone really signed the log.

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I think sometimes newbies hide a cache, then tell their buddies (other newbies) where it is so they can get the FTF -- before it's even published, most likely -- but their coordinates suck, so once it's published, ONLY their buddies will ever log it.  Color me jaded...

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First skinny and now jaded? Yowzer!

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The owner of GC41VJ5 posted this note today:

 

"I am working on getting the correct coordinates updated! The coordinates are slightly off and do not lead you to the cache, however, it is there still! I will update when it is all figured out. I am sorry for the confusion!!"

 

I think jackrock would agree that "slightly off" is not a precise description of the coordinate accuracy, but it's nice that he/she is looking into the matter.

 

Yesterday it was disabled with a note saying that he'll visit and get more precise coordinates.  Good to see this is someone that is paying attention and wiling to fix it. 

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The owner of GC41VJ5 posted this note today:

 

"I am working on getting the correct coordinates updated! The coordinates are slightly off and do not lead you to the cache, however, it is there still! I will update when it is all figured out. I am sorry for the confusion!!"

 

I think jackrock would agree that "slightly off" is not a precise description of the coordinate accuracy, but it's nice that he/she is looking into the matter.

 

Yesterday it was disabled with a note saying that he'll visit and get more precise coordinates.  Good to see this is someone that is paying attention and wiling to fix it. 

 

 

I had suggested, very nicely with an explanation of why, that the cache be disabled until more accurate coordinates could be obtained.  He/she/they is/are at least trying.  Kudos.

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GC43NAB This is one that puzzles me. Several experienced cachers have DNF this one from the start but two cachers with 1 find and 20 finds found it and claimed it to be easy. I am even wondering if those profiles are real.. Even the cacher with 20 finds logged most of their caches in one day everywhere from Alvin, Pearland, Memorial, and the Heights.. all in one day and their first day...

Coords are obviously off as it puts you in the road.

 I've seen this happen a number of times.  Of course, if you can't find it you can't see if anyone really signed the log.

 

We looked for this one and I don't beleive that there is a cache at the GZ. The finds only came after someone suggested that the cache be achived. When we suggested that it be archived I mentioned that the finder only had one find and then it was found by someone with more than one find but all of their finds were the day after our log suggesting that this cache be archived. Very suspicious!

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GC43NAB This is one that puzzles me. Several experienced cachers have DNF this one from the start but two cachers with 1 find and 20 finds found it and claimed it to be easy. I am even wondering if those profiles are real.. Even the cacher with 20 finds logged most of their caches in one day everywhere from Alvin, Pearland, Memorial, and the Heights.. all in one day and their first day...

Coords are obviously off as it puts you in the road.

 I've seen this happen a number of times.  Of course, if you can't find it you can't see if anyone really signed the log.

 

We looked for this one and I don't beleive that there is a cache at the GZ. The finds only came after someone suggested that the cache be achived. When we suggested that it be archived I mentioned that the finder only had one find and then it was found by someone with more than one find but all of their finds were the day after our log suggesting that this cache be archived. Very suspicious!

Quote: "Not that hard to find but nothing to sign.".  

 

Nothing to sign?  Well, that explains it.

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