GC2FDX2 - Texas Challenge 2011

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We cache as a team.  Should we each log it individually?  I know at leastKF5IEW does that also.  That puts it at 251.  Still quite a ways to go.

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There was a logbook?

There was definitely a logbook. I even remember that ParkerPlus signed right before I did. However, after I signed it I never saw the logbook again.

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It was on the registration table on the end closest to the Losge.  Problem was it wasn't put out till Saturday, I think (when the event was).  Most people picked up their packets Friday evening and didn't go back by that area until the silent auction.

And then it was moved by the raffle tickets.  Those of us there asked and told people to sign, but even so....

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You guys did a great job!!!

I was asked by Langly, the other Dallas guy that played, If I could find out what his score was.  I would appreciate it if you could let me or him know.

His score was 530.

Langly is a hardcore cacher and was wondering since he found 20 including the 5/5 water one (which he swam to...hummmm)...that perhaps since his score cards were wet and separated and he had a very hard time punching with them wet, if most of his finds were disregarded???  That would make his average a little less than 1/2...very disappointing to him

He also found one cache without a punch, one with only 1/2 of the punch and one that was so plugged up that he could not punch.

I know that the cache in the lake (34T) was compromised sometime during the event (the punch was lost in the lake)  so, per the rules, no finds on that cache were counted.  Any scorecards with impressions of a punch, half punches, hanging chads, etc, were counted as finds -- to the best of our ability.

I personally didn't come across any damaged or illegible scorecards, but I only scored the CenTex team. 

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Looking at the physical card of Langly, I only see that 12 items were punched.  There might have been 1 other space that was punched, but the scorecard was torn in half at that point, so it would have been hard to determine whether it was punched or not.  34T (the water cache) was not punched.  None of the other spaces even remotely looked like a punch had been applied.

I witnessed the scoring of the cards, and each card was checked by 2 people, then again at the scoring table as they were entered into the computer.  Every effort was made to give credit for the caches.

We really appreciate his effort on behalf of the SETX team.

Langly is a hardcore cacher and was wondering since he found 20 including the 5/5 water one (which he swam to...hummmm)...that perhaps since his score cards were wet and separated and he had a very hard time punching with them wet, if most of his finds were disregarded???  That would make his average a little less than 1/2...very disappointing to him

He also found one cache without a punch, one with only 1/2 of the punch and one that was so plugged up that he could not punch.

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I added a Mr Muddy Buddy account and logged the Friday and Saturday events.

O0 O0 O0 O0

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I went back and looked at the number of "Attended" logs online for the previous Texas Challenges and they are as follows:

2003: 42

2004: 101

2005: 137

2006: 165

2007: 161

2008: 154

2009: 201

2010: 176

We're at 243 and counting for 2011 which makes it the most-attended Texas Challenge ever.  But if the attended logs are the criteria for Mega status, we probably have a few years to go yet.  :-\

The most important item to remember is we have created a *platform* for a potential *Mega Status* Texas Challenge.  PR will not accept Mega Status unless there is proof and I *asked* to attract more attendees and he stated *NO*.  So we are showing proof, people are still logging but in the end...we had a blast!!  Right?  Right!!  O0

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We cache as a team.  Should we each log it individually?  I know at leastKF5IEW does that also.  That puts it at 251.  Still quite a ways to go.

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Done.  I tried to get her to use the name Houston Control referred to on another thread but she wouldn't go for it.  MrsKirk logged the Challenge as #262.  I suppose Mrs KF5IEW could be #263, but it's still over 200 away.  Only way the event reaches Mega is if EVERYBODY logs everybody they brought as a separate account.  Can we post that or email everybody that has posted a did attend?

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Langly is a hardcore cacher and was wondering since he found 20 including the 5/5 water one (which he swam to...hummmm)...that perhaps since his score cards were wet and separated and he had a very hard time punching with them wet, if most of his finds were disregarded???  That would make his average a little less than 1/2...very disappointing to him

He also found one cache without a punch, one with only 1/2 of the punch and one that was so plugged up that he could not punch.

I scored that card. I scored it best I could read it, I actually gave benefit of the doubt on each punch. A lot of them were torn holes, I tried to match the tear shape to score it. It was scored on each page, the score should be correct. Of course the 5/5 was thrown out due to the punch being lost.

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For funsies, I looked at the Midwest GeoBash events, that have been Mega for several years:

In 2005, it was just a regular event, logged as "Attended" 190 times.

In 2006, it was logged as "Attended" 236 times (and logged as "Found" 66 times), yet was granted Mega status.  :o

Since then, it has been a Mega event with 521, 575, 649 & 705 Attended logs, respectively.

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thanks for looking into Langly's score card matter.  His memory must be going like mine!!!

again thanks

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i was wondering the same thing i never saw a log book while i was there and definetly didnt sign one

I had no idea there was a log book either.  I checked in Friday.  Saturday I walked by the table many times but never checked in at it because I had already checked in on Friday. 

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I crunched some numbers from the Challenge and got some interesting results.  Of the 59 "regular" caches (with punches inside), each was found an average of 64 times.  This includes the interactive puzzles, the moving puzzle, but NOT the one in the lake that got scratched.  Cache 55t had the most finds with 177 punches.  4 caches (31M, 40T, 63T & 79M) were not found at all!

Of the 20 evil hides, only 9 were found.

Here's a link to a map that shows the location of all the caches.  The unopened chests are caches that were not found.  Hover the cursor over a cache to show the cache ID, a hyphen, and the number of times it was found.  Evils don't have the hyphen and number because they were either found or weren't.  The red pins are the starting coords for multis.  If you select "OpenCycleMap topo" as the map type, it shows the trails in the park.

http://www.gpsvisualizer.com/display/1300649532-10707-98.201.35.191.html

If someone knows how to display this info better, be my guest!

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I crunched some numbers from the Challenge and got some interesting results.  Of the 59 "regular" caches (with punches inside), each was found an average of 64 times.  This includes the interactive puzzles, the moving puzzle, but NOT the one in the lake that got scratched.  Cache 55t had the most finds with 177 punches.  4 caches (31M, 40T, 63T & 79M) were not found at all!

Of the 20 evil hides, only 9 were found.

Here's a link to a map that shows the location of all the caches.  The unopened chests are caches that were not found.  Hover the cursor over a cache to show the cache ID, a hyphen, and the number of times it was found.  Evils don't have the hyphen and number because they were either found or weren't.  The red pins are the starting coords for multis.  If you select "OpenCycleMap topo" as the map type, it shows the trails in the park.

http://www.gpsvisualizer.com/display/1300649532-10707-98.201.35.191.html

If someone knows how to display this info better, be my guest!

What number puzzle were you Larry???

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I crunched some numbers from the Challenge and got some interesting results.  Of the 59 "regular" caches (with punches inside), each was found an average of 64 times.  This includes the interactive puzzles, the moving puzzle, but NOT the one in the lake that got scratched.  Cache 55t had the most finds with 177 punches.  4 caches (31M, 40T, 63T & 79M) were not found at all!

Of the 20 evil hides, only 9 were found.

Here's a link to a map that shows the location of all the caches.  The unopened chests are caches that were not found.  Hover the cursor over a cache to show the cache ID, a hyphen, and the number of times it was found.  Evils don't have the hyphen and number because they were either found or weren't.  The red pins are the starting coords for multis.  If you select "OpenCycleMap topo" as the map type, it shows the trails in the park.

http://www.gpsvisualizer.com/display/1300649532-10707-98.201.35.191.html

If someone knows how to display this info better, be my guest!

What number puzzle were you Larry???

15P

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Great job crunching the numbers, Larry!  O0 O0  It's pretty interesting.  I think (Lynne would know for sure) that 55T was one of the caches that had to be moved from the area of the prescribed burn. It's camo didn't quite match the original Tallow tree.  I do think having to move our caches from the burn area helped the hunters because it created a little more cache density in a couple of areas.

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4 caches (31M, 40T, 63T & 79M) were not found at all!

Interesting that 79M was never logged.  When I picked up the caches, both redirectors for 79M had been moved and it at least appeared that the final had been disturbed.

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I thought the caches that I placed WAAAAAY off the trail in the western part of the park might not get hit at all.  When I went to pick them up, I only found one or two chads laying around, so I thought they didn't see any action, but most of them were found 15 or 16 times.  O0

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I thought the caches that I placed WAAAAAY off the trail in the western part of the park might not get hit at all.  When I went to pick them up, I only found one or two chads laying around, so I thought they didn't see any action, but most of them were found 15 or 16 times.  O0

I was picking up the chads and putting them in the containers if I found them on the ground... and was actively looking for them on the ground when I was looking for the caches.

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Here's the stats for just the SETX team.  This is similar to what HC did a few posts back.

http://www.gpsvisualizer.com/download/data/1300676193-19643-76.231.149.241.html

The most-found were the 50T, 54T, 55T area with around 75 finds.

Only 9 managed to survive the Bop-It game (15P).  LOL

I posted the "Roving Riddlers" cache (47P) at the Headquarters location.  55 SETX cachers got the answers to the "riddles".

It looks like the team was all over the park.  Great going!!!

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Here's the stats for just the SETX team.  This is similar to what HC did a few posts back.

http://www.gpsvisualizer.com/download/data/1300676193-19643-76.231.149.241.html

The most-found were the 50T, 54T, 55T area with around 75 finds.

Only 9 managed to survive the Bop-It game (15P).  LOL

I posted the "Roving Riddlers" cache (47P) at the Headquarters location.  55 SETX cachers got the answers to the "riddles".

It looks like the team was all over the park.  Great going!!!

We had a great team!!!

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I realize 34t was thrown out but shouldn't it have two punches from SETX?

Here's the stats for just the SETX team.  This is similar to what HC did a few posts back.

http://www.gpsvisualizer.com/download/data/1300676193-19643-76.231.149.241.html

The most-found were the 50T, 54T, 55T area with around 75 finds.

Only 9 managed to survive the Bop-It game (15P).  LOL

I posted the "Roving Riddlers" cache (47P) at the Headquarters location.  55 SETX cachers got the answers to the "riddles".

It looks like the team was all over the park.  Great going!!!

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I realize 34t was thrown out but shouldn't it have two punches from SETX?

It should have had zero... because it was thrown out.  Those numbers came straight from the scoring database, and apparently one credit slipped through on 34T for SETX (and I believe two for NTX).  It was tough scoring 270-something cards and trying to remember NOT to count a certain punch.  It only made about a one point difference in the final scores, so nothing really changed.

Luckily, Team Four Paw also survived the Bop-it game, or I believe I would be banned from the forum about now... :notme:

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Here's the stats for just the SETX team.  This is similar to what HC did a few posts back.

http://www.gpsvisualizer.com/download/data/1300676193-19643-76.231.149.241.html

The most-found were the 50T, 54T, 55T area with around 75 finds.

Only 9 managed to survive the Bop-It game (15P).  LOL

I posted the "Roving Riddlers" cache (47P) at the Headquarters location.  55 SETX cachers got the answers to the "riddles".

It looks like the team was all over the park.  Great going!!!

I was so glad for the Bop-It game! I managed to find HC, with help from another team, with minutes to spare and it totally bumped up my score. :D

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