Many 60CSx Questions (more later)

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I think we paid about $130 for MapSource.

That sounds like City Navigator, Tim. (or one of the other detailed map programs they have)  Garmin sells the base software for $29.99 (just checked)

Perfect example.  As I remember I looked into the "MapSource" software when I first bought the unit.  I must have found 20 seemingly different things with the name MapSource, priced from about $30 to $400.  I went away with my head spinning and saying, "Why do I need maps anyway, I only use it to find caches?"

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And, the answer is . . .

A thing called Trip & Waypoint Manager came with the unit.  I had never taken it out of the box, thinking GSAK would do anything it would do.  I installed it and Voila!, like OSC said, it will import all waypoints.  I saved that file out .gpx and dropped it into GSAK -- waypoints available for analysis.

Thanks OSC.

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And, the answer is . . .

A thing called Trip & Waypoint Manager came with the unit.  I had never taken it out of the box, thinking GSAK would do anything it would do.  I installed it and Voila!, like OSC said, it will import all waypoints.  I saved that file out .gpx and dropped it into GSAK -- waypoints available for analysis.

Thanks OSC.

Any time! O0

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I have Mapsource, and in the upper left-hand corner of the menu bar, just under "File / Edit / Find /....", is a drop-down box that says "Select a Product" when I hover the cursor over it.  My choices are No Map, Trip & Waypoint Manager v2, City Select North America v6, or City Navigator North America v8.  The City Select v6 came with my Garmin iQue M5 and I bought the City Navigator v8 upgrade last year.

So it looks like my Trip & Waypoint Manager is a part of Mapsource?

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I have Mapsource, and in the upper left-hand corner of the menu bar, just under "File / Edit / Find /....", is a drop-down box that says "Select a Product" when I hover the cursor over it.  My choices are No Map, Trip & Waypoint Manager v2, City Select North America v6, or City Navigator North America v8.  The City Select v6 came with my Garmin iQue M5 and I bought the City Navigator v8 upgrade last year.

So it looks like my Trip & Waypoint Manager is a part of Mapsource?

MapSource seems like the umbrella app that everything else plugs into.  You need it first.

When we got City Navigator we tried to install it on its own...it needed MapSource T&WM before it allowed you to continue....

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I just got one. Going to learn how to use it tomorrow. :tinfoil:

Stan just ordered me one.  Now that he found the way to put the GC number and part of the name so that it displays, I'm sold on it.  That was my only hold back before.  I'm just hoping that I have a chance to learn how to use it as well as I can my Magellan before the TX Challenge. 

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OK, so I finally bit and looked at the specs on this guy, compared it to my Garmin eTrex Vista HCx, which retails for $100 less. I wanted to see what new things I was missing. Using the Garmin site's comparison tool, the only difference I see is that the 60CSx comes with an SD card (I had to supply my own), and the 60CSx also has tide tables (which I don't think I will need). Oh, it offers serial PC interface in addition to USB. On the other hand, mine weighs less and lasts longer on the same batteries.

What am I missing? What's the big deal for the 60?

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Stan just ordered me one.  Now that he found the way to put the GC number and part of the name so that it displays, I'm sold on it.  That was my only hold back before. 

What do you use the GC numbers for in the field?

I'm just hoping that I have a chance to learn how to use it as well as I can my Magellan before the TX Challenge. 

Here's my review of the 60CSx compared to my old Maggie.

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I like the buttons after using Magellan for years the 60's buttons make thing a little more user friendly.

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OK, so I finally bit and looked at the specs on this guy, compared it to my Garmin eTrex Vista HCx, which retails for $100 less. I wanted to see what new things I was missing. Using the Garmin site's comparison tool, the only difference I see is that the 60CSx comes with an SD card (I had to supply my own), and the 60CSx also has tide tables (which I don't think I will need). Oh, it offers serial PC interface in addition to USB. On the other hand, mine weighs less and lasts longer on the same batteries.

What am I missing? What's the big deal for the 60?

The micro sd card in the 60CSx was worthless (64mb.. why bother...) because it took a 2Gb card to store the entire US, Canada, Alaska, and Hawaii...

Other than that, there was no HCx when we bought the 60CSx so there was no way to compare the two; at the time, the 60CSx was it.

And as far as all the other stuff, personally, the 60CSx looks cooler...it looks rugged....do they rate ruggedness?  The HCx is probably rugged and we're not willing to beat either unit up to make a point but the 60 looks like it was designed to take more of a beating...

PLUS....

You can wedge the 60CSx on your dash and front window pillar and navigate for a FTF pretty easily....not sure you can wedge the HCx that way....

PLUS...

do they have a bike mount for the HCx?  They do for the 60.....

All things considered Important for Mr. OSC....

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I just got one. Going to learn how to use it tomorrow. :tinfoil:

Stan just ordered me one.  Now that he found the way to put the GC number and part of the name so that it displays, I'm sold on it.  That was my only hold back before.   I'm just hoping that I have a chance to learn how to use it as well as I can my Magellan before the TX Challenge. 

....like Thot asked, what value are the GC numbers in the field?

....if you use the Send To GPS function on GC.com it sends them as the GC number which tends to get hairy when trying for multiple FTFs....you have to go to the cache on the unit and see which is which.....  when trying to get T&P's Colony Cwest series it made it a little challenging....(except the find next function worked extremely well....  O0)

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We decided on the HCx because of the compact design.

Yes, they have a bike and windscreen mount for the HCx. It is universal between the two so you dont have to change clips when you go from one to the other.

Actually these 2 mounts are the same for the HCx, Cx and the monochrome units. As far as mounts, nothing changed for us when we went to the Cx and HCx.

Those mounts can get expensive!

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We decided on the HCx because of the compact design.

Yes, they have a bike and windscreen mount for the HCx. It is universal between the two so you dont have to change clips when you go from one to the other.

Actually these 2 mounts are the same for the HCx, Cx and the monochrome units. As far as mounts, nothing changed for us when we went to the Cx and HCx.

Those mounts can get expensive!

Well, that's good to know....Garmin is proud of their stuff, aren't they?

After seeing Pappy's windshield mount for the 60, it is the same for the bike mount....

...one thing that is abysmal on the 60...the belt clip S-T-I-N-K-S ....we're on our third one (all replaced under warranty) because the plastic fatigues and cracks......they should have made it a metal mounting clip.....

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Stan just ordered me one.  Now that he found the way to put the GC number and part of the name so that it displays, I'm sold on it.  That was my only hold back before.   

What do you use the GC numbers for in the field?

I use the GC numbers to make my notes on the PDA about the cache so when I get home I can find the cache and log it.  The actual names are more helpful in the field because they sometimes give you a clue as to what you are looking for.  I just like having both.  Also, when I cache with others, I never know how they are referencing their caches and I'd like to give them either name as the next cache that we are going for.  I've had friends that use GC numbers only and others that use cache names only. 

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I know these are a problem with the breaking but when I asked Garmin why, they told me the metal could become magnatized (probably pretty fast) and mess up the compass. Makes sense to me once I heard that.

We decided on the HCx because of the compact design.

Yes, they have a bike and windscreen mount for the HCx. It is universal between the two so you dont have to change clips when you go from one to the other.

Actually these 2 mounts are the same for the HCx, Cx and the monochrome units. As far as mounts, nothing changed for us when we went to the Cx and HCx.

Those mounts can get expensive!

Well, that's good to know....Garmin is proud of their stuff, aren't they?

After seeing Pappy's windshield mount for the 60, it is the same for the bike mount....

...one thing that is abysmal on the 60...the belt clip S-T-I-N-K-S ....we're on our third one (all replaced under warranty) because the plastic fatigues and cracks......they should have made it a metal mounting clip.....

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I know these are a problem with the breaking but when I asked Garmin why, they told me the metal could become magnatized (probably pretty fast) and mess up the compass. Makes sense to me once I heard that.

We decided on the HCx because of the compact design.

Yes, they have a bike and windscreen mount for the HCx. It is universal between the two so you dont have to change clips when you go from one to the other.

Actually these 2 mounts are the same for the HCx, Cx and the monochrome units. As far as mounts, nothing changed for us when we went to the Cx and HCx.

Those mounts can get expensive!

Well, that's good to know....Garmin is proud of their stuff, aren't they?

After seeing Pappy's windshield mount for the 60, it is the same for the bike mount....

...one thing that is abysmal on the 60...the belt clip S-T-I-N-K-S ....we're on our third one (all replaced under warranty) because the plastic fatigues and cracks......they should have made it a metal mounting clip.....

There's strong enough metal that won't magnetize....they just want it on the cheap, you know?

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Imagine that! Garmin wouldnt do that now would they?

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Luckily, I already had the windshield mount and bicycle mount for my GPS60, so I didn't have to get anything extra for my 60CSx. 

I bought my dad an Etrex H for Christmas and I was really disappointed in the screen resolution.  I had a real hard time reading the numbers on the screen.  Maybe the HCx has a better screen?

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Since we now have the 60CSX, we tried the "sendtogps" button on the GC.com cache pages, and we get an error that basically says "This feature is only available with a Garmin GPS"  We installed the communicator stuff and updated USB drivers, but still it will not work.

Any help here?  We are running Windows XP.

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Since we now have the 60CSX, we tried the "sendtogps" button on the GC.com cache pages, and we get an error that basically says "This feature is only available with a Garmin GPS"  We installed the communicator stuff and updated USB drivers, but still it will not work.

Any help here?  We are running Windows XP.

Does it even find the device?

You may need to call Garmin...they're pretty good about help

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I haven't tested, but is the protocol on the 60 set to Garmin?

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Since we now have the 60CSX, we tried the "sendtogps" button on the GC.com cache pages, and we get an error that basically says "This feature is only available with a Garmin GPS"  We installed the communicator stuff and updated USB drivers, but still it will not work.

Any help here?  We are running Windows XP.

I've been hit or miss on using that feature too.  It seems to work when it wants to.  For new caches and FTF tries, I almost find it faster to copy and paste the coords into new waypoints in Mapsource, then upload to the GPS.

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I like the feature and have had success with it.  As I recall you have to install this plugin for it to work.

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We've never had a failure yet and its primaily uses for FTF runs so it has been spot on for us.... O0

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