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Many 60CSx Questions (more later)

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You can run the Garmin POI loader in "silent" mode so it doesn't bug you for info each time it runs.

Right now I don't mind it bugging me I just want it to do something other that produce the failure.  It seems hopeless.  Garmin says you can't send GPX files to the unit using the POI loader, so they won't address a failure of something they say is impossible to begin with.

The POI Loader does not send a GPX file.  It reads the GPX file and converts it to a POI  file on your GPS.

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What error do you get when not in mass storage mode?

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You may need to call Garmin for another recommendation.

They won't even discuss it with me because they say the POI loader can't use GPX files to put caches on the gadget.

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The POI Loader does not send a GPX file.  It reads the GPX file and converts it to a POI  file on your GPS.

Okay.  I still get the error.

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When you get old your mind turns to mashed potatoes.  I must be doing something wrong but I can't figure out what.  In considering doing a cache that requires projection I worked out the projected location using GeoCalc (it's got a new name but I can't remember what it is -- maybe FizziCalc).  But, in GeoCalc you can do it in either of two ways that give slightly different answers.  So, I decided to do it with my 60CSx thinking that would be the most universal.  To my astonishment I got a quite different answer than the one given by GeoCalc.  Here's a simplified illustration.  The picture below is screen captures of before and after shots of the GPSr screen.

The before was the same in GeoCalc (N29° 33.210  W95° 05.662), but the answer in it was:

N 29 34.081, W 95 05.662

While the answer in the GPSr was:

N 29 34.076, W 95 05.595

These are over 350 feet different.  And, since the bearing was 000 or due north the longitude should have been unchanged -- the result GeoCalc got. 

What am I doing wrong?

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I noticed you are using "magnetic" projection.  Is that the same in both fizzycalc and the GPSr?

When you get old your mind turns to mashed potatoes.  I must be doing something wrong but I can't figure out what.  In considering doing a cache that requires projection I worked out the projected location using GeoCalc (it's got a new name but I can't remember what it is -- maybe FizziCalc).  But, in GeoCalc you can do it in either of two ways that give slightly different answers.  So, I decided to do it with my 60CSx thinking that would be the most universal.  To my astonishment I got a quite different answer than the one given by GeoCalc.  Here's a simplified illustration.  The picture below is screen captures of before and after shots of the GPSr screen.

The before was the same in GeoCalc (N29° 33.210  W95° 05.662), but the answer in it was:

N 29 34.081, W 95 05.662

While the answer in the GPSr was:

N 29 34.076, W 95 05.595

These are over 350 feet different.  And, since the bearing was 000 or due north the longitude should have been unchanged -- the result GeoCalc got. 

What am I doing wrong?

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In fizzycalc choose high accuracy rather than great circle.

I was using high accuracy, but the difference between the two results is only a few feet, 10-20 maybe, at this distance -- not 350

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I noticed you are using "magnetic" projection.  Is that the same in both fizzycalc and the GPSr?

By jove, I think you have the answer.  But, how did you know I was using magnetic

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That gets them much closer, but the difference is still 25 ft.  The message here may be to do projections on computer using a good program or expect to be up a good distance off if you use a GPSr.

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The great circle method is about in the middle -- about 12 ft from high accuracy instead of 25

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I noticed you are using "magnetic" projection.  Is that the same in both fizzycalc and the GPSr?

By jove, I think you have the answer.  But, how did you know I was using magnetic

In your original post, the images of the GPSr screen shows  a small m to the lower right of the bearing.

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My 60CSx has begun running the batteries down when turned off.  At first I just though I'd forgotten and left it on.  So next time I feel sure I turned it off and the same thing happened again.  Yesterday I made sure I turned it off and today the batteries are dead.  I can replace the dead batteries with ones from my caching bag that were charged a week ago and it will work all afternoon, but the next morning it will be dead. 

Anybody seen this behavior?

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No battery problems with mine.  That is a peculiar failure, some earlier Garmin's had a standby mode that would keep the barometer powered, but that was not implemented on the  60 series, nor would it drain the battery if working properly.  I'd call Garmin tech support. 

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My 60CSx has begun running the batteries down when turned off.  At first I just though I'd forgotten and left it on.  So next time I feel sure I turned it off and the same thing happened again.  Yesterday I made sure I turned it off and today the batteries are dead.  I can replace the dead batteries with ones from my caching bag that were charged a week ago and it will work all afternoon, but the next morning it will be dead. 

Anybody seen this behavior?

We went caching with georeynozos this week and she reported having the same problem with her 60CSx.... ours hasn't experienced that. ???  You may want to contact her...

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I forgot to report the outcome.  Garmin suggested I do a master reset (probably called something else).  This puts everything back to factory settings.  This worked to stop the battery drain.  However, I hide the pseudo compass and now it comes up as the default every time I select a new cache.  So, I have to page over to the Map screen which is the one I use.  Disappears once I page away from it until the next cache is selected.

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To whom it may concern.

If you use he Map screen and don't use the pseudo-compass you may be interested in this tip.  In the factory default settings, if your geocaches use the treasure box icon/symbol the pseudo-compass will come up every time you select a new cache and you have to toggle around to the Map screen.  The only way you can avoid this in the 60C settings is to change the icon for geocaches to something (anything) other than the treasure box so the device considers geocaches as waypoints.  NOTE:  Of course you have to also hide this screen.

I think you can probably tell GSAK to use another icon too, but the only way to avoid the pseudo compass screen using 60C settings it this way.  I've wrestled with Garmin for a week and they kept maintaining it was impossible to avoid it.  I figured it out myself this morning.  I had figure it out when I first got my unit, but when I did the master reset it went back to factory setting and I have forgotten that I'd done this.  This is how I knew it could be done when Garmin kept insisting it couldn't.

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Sorry you had to go thru the trouble. The other way of saying that is if you want the Geocache compass screen you have to make sure the icon is set to the treasure chest. Not 100% sure but I think that wording is covered in the manual on pages 20, 21, and 72. Though it isn't clear what the "significance" is as detailed in the manual.

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The other way of saying that is if you want the Geocache compass screen you have to make sure the icon is set to the treasure chest.

You can show the normal pseudo-compass screen while using a different icon than the treasure chest, but apparently there's a version of this screen, with more geocaching options, that only comes up after you select a cache.  This is the version you don't get without using the treasure chest icon.  This latter version is the one I was getting.

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Correct.

Choosing the chest icon and then navigating to the "cache" the compass screen now in Geocache mode allows the unit to log the find under the calendar and give the option to navigate to another geocache. The irony here is I prefer the compass screen. On my 62st without using the "Geocache Dashboard" I have to switch back to the map screen to get to my additional geocache options. I know you like the map screen hence the irony. So you would probably welcome the change. Me not so much. However I submitted it as a bug.. so hopefully it will get fixed in the next firmware release.

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I too prefer the pseudo-compass, but to each his own.  I found my first few hundred caches using a Garmin PDA/GPS that didn't have the arrow, only the map, so I've cached that way too.  ZHR finds caches looking at the raw lat/long numbers and walking around until they match the cache coordinates.  Heck, Nebulus703 doesn't use a GPS at all!  :o

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