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Trackables and length held

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I know not everyone is into trackables.  And if you don't mess with them, then you don't need to say anything here.

 

I'm not a trackable Nazi.  I know we all cache at different paces and, sometimes, things happen, life gets in the way, etc.  We also deal with trackables differently.  Personally, I don't like mine being dipped in every dang cache someone goes to.  Dip it in a new state, country, a 'worthy' cache that has some historical factor, cache coolness factor, photo opportunity, an EC or event, etc. but not every single traditional you come to.  But that's just me.  Some people like to do that.  Really, I don't care - just not my preference.

 

But seeing some of mine held by people for ages (6 months, 9 months, +) without really being moved irks me.  They are taking them to events and they get discovered but they don't get handed off to anyone or actually dropped anywhere.  And the cachers ARE caching - actively.  They could be dropped to be picked up by someone and moved with the randomness that is the TB/GC game.

 

There are good reasons people hold them a long time.  Life events.  Snow.  Holding for a trip to take it somewhere.  (It's nice when they log it as such so you know).  Maybe a kid has it and can't get out like an adult cacher.  But I think some trackable holders, especially ones who have tons of them, forget the trackables are not theirs.

 

Considering 'normal' cachers (think the broad base of all gc.com membership here, not us elite HGCS cachers) don't go caching every day, some even not every week :uglystupid2:what is your definition of a reasonable time to hold onto trackables in 'normal' conditions?  (i.e., not in the north buried under snow up north in winter, no illness preventing holder form caching, not holding to take on an upcoming trip, etc.).  And, do you actually practice that way (most of the time)?

 

Do you find yourself in one of these categories:

 

Move it at the next opportunity available

Move it the next time I go caching if it will fit

Move it at the next event I attend or next time I go caching after an event

A few weeks is fine if I find a place to put it

A month

A couple months 

 

Or something else?

 

There's no wrong answer.  Just looking for peoples' thoughts.

 

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With the proliferation of micro's in this area, it's sometimes hard to find a cache big enough for a trackable.

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Move it at the next opportunity available.  I see them as hot potatoes.  I ocassionally will dip them to let the owners know they are still active if I can't cache or find a container that wil hold them.

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With the proliferation of micro's in this area, it's sometimes hard to find a cache big enough for a trackable.

 

This is why I will leave a trackable under a suitable LPC skirt.

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I have been known to dip into most caches I visit that the TB is with me, or in the car, when I visit just so the TB owner knows I'm not holding and forgot about it.  Just nice to know that it's remembered and moving around... I have a couple that I released that seem to have gone missing or the cache is not found but once every 6 months.  Annoying to see it's not moving, but I know that's to be expected.  Still sad... 

 

I have a micro coin I released and for a long time, the person in possession was really active and took pictures of it in awesome remote locations.  Then all movement stopped.  Even the geocacher stopped and it's been 3 months or so.  I sent a polite note asking if they were still caching and if not, I'd pay to have it returned to me.  He wrote back, said he's on a job assignment and had wanted to take it to great remote locations, but he hasn't been allowed to cache on the job and apologized.  That's fine with me too.  I know it's not forgotten.  Hopefully.

 

Somehow I end up with all your giant TBs.  Dragons, Mr. Potato Head, big coiled up blue snakes.  These are even more difficult to drop at a cache.  First, you have to find something big enough.  People even want to give me bowling balls that are TBs and I managed to escape that one for now.  I know I must have "sucker" written across my forehead... 

 

But I try not to hold a TB longer than a month unless I know I have somewhere good to take it in the future.  Not always possible to drop at a cache, so I'll take to an event and trade out with a person.  But I really do try to take them to caches instead of leaving them at an event table to be picked up.

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Everyone needing to move big TBs -- GE won't take them.  But PB02 will if he's at the event.  ;)

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Everyone needing to move big TBs -- GE won't take them.  But PB02 will if he's at the event.  ;)

 

good thing he doesn't make as many events....  :stirpot:

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I usually keep them for 1-3 months depending on mission, where I am traveling, etc.  Also, I try to make sure I put them in a "safe" cache as I do not want the TBs or coins to go missing, and that usually takes a bit of time.  Also, I don't mind when I receive a note from a TB owner asking me to move it along, sometimes I forget how long I have it.

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Great topic!

 

I suppose I tend to keep em on the longer side too. I'm guessing a month or more. Also, I am one to "dip" my non-owned inventory often too. So I'm dismayed by your comment about not loving that practice. Who knew? Because I've never had a Trackable survive in the wild more than a few months, I don't know what it's like to have a lot of feedback  on TB movement. :( Seriously. 

 

Because of my personal bad luck with Trackables I've set free, I've gotten real skiddish about dropping somebody else's Trackable in a geoCache or "in" an event. I prefer to know to whom I've passed it along in person while caching or at an event. I've not yet had anybody tell me to move a Trackable along, so I suppose my internal clock or average holding time to release seems acceptable albeit pretty dynamic.

 

Two things that really make one look bad are: 1) Being last to find on a missing geocache, and 2) Being the last to possess a missing Trackable!

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I like finding travel bugs and moving them along, so I am dismayed that lots of people don't seem to want to place them in caches.  We don't make many events since we live relatively far from most of you and that means that the only way we find them is to find them in a cache.

 

When I find one, I will often move it as soon as I have a reasonable opportunity to do so.  I usually drop them into a cache that is a new find for me rather than into one of our caches.

 

If I have travel plans (and the preferences of the owner of the travel bug allow this), I might hold on to a TB longer than usual.  I have one right now that I found this past weekend that I intend to take to California over Thanksgiving.

 

I am also surprised that you don't like seeing your TBs travel from cache to cache.  We went to Turkey this past summer and had a couple of TBs along.  One wanted to end up back in the Dallas area, so we ran up some miles in it before releasing back into the wild here in Texas.  The owner sent us an email thanking us for the ride. ;D

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Two things that really make one look bad are: 1) Being last to find on a missing geocache, and 2) Being the last to possess a missing Trackable!

 

makes me think about what happened to the TBs in quite a few of cajunspongebob's caches that he archived on Monday... he had so many of them, I wonder if he's just leaving them there or picking up the actual caches?

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I often contact the owner if holding on to one will give me a chance to put some miles on it. I currently have three that are all picking up over 20,000 miles.

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I am also surprised that you don't like seeing your TBs travel from cache to cache.  We went to Turkey this past summer and had a couple of TBs along.  One wanted to end up back in the Dallas area, so we ran up some miles in it before releasing back into the wild here in Texas.  The owner sent us an email thanking us for the ride. ;D

 

Off the main point - but wanted to explain.

 

This is just me, and know others may like just the opposite.  I like it being dipped in caches in new places - new countries, states, etc. and for significant miles to document the overall route.  Go to Turkey?  Please dip and post a photo.  Even if it's been there before.  Dip in Dallas before you go to North Dakota or Canada?  I guess, but not really needed.

 

Dip it anywhere you are willing to post a photo or have something to write about the location it visited.  Anything 'worthy' of a dip or photo.  A cool cache location or container.  Neat photo op - ie., a virutal or EarthCache.  Something historical.  Mega event.  etc.  But when you go do a series, or just a cache run all over and there are X number of them but nothing special, I don't need 15 pages of logs to see if it has actually 'been' anywhere.   I had two get dipped in ALL the ET Hwy caches.  Sure, the highway bends and it's a few extra miles.  I don't care. 

 

But that's just me.  I figure the mileage, for the most part, is pretty much the same end to end wherever it's going.  Adding .1, .12, .24, 1.06 miles at each stop only cuts down the bigger start and end point mileage overall.   But, I'd love it dipped in ET1, Golden Arrow (NV's oldest -- or some title like that), and neat places along the way, etc., like (say) ET 1774 - with a photo of the old settler's house there.  But the 19xx caches in between?  Pass.  Again, just me.

 

I've actually seen a number of TBs called :   "NAME xxxx x xxx xxx  (NO DIP) "     for that reason.

 

 

 

Back on the main point:

 

As TG said - I will log a note for at TB and ask the owner "you want me to move now or hold 2 months when I go on my trip to wherever?"  Give them the option. They usually want the trip for miles, photos, and knowing it's safe in the meantime.  But not always, and when not I honor their wish and move it along.

 

I generally try to move bugs along and probably equally distribute at events and place in caches.  I like finding them in the wild, too.  I try to keep one in my STS series and will place others in caches where they fit.  I tend to lean towards putting them in newer caches that come up so they get picked up quicker once placed.  For me, unless some cool event is coming up, like the Night Paddle event, I try to move along within 2-3 weeks, but sometimes have them a month or more.  That life thing.  I don't think a month is unreasonable if your first priority is not caching.  I'd be happy anyone holding one of mine moved it within a month.  I realize it can sit in a cache for a long time, and that's fine.

 

But sometimes, getting people to unload their inventory is a challenge.  Even when it's been with them far, far longer.

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Two things that really make one look bad are: 1) Being last to find on a missing geocache, and 2) Being the last to possess a missing Trackable!

 

makes me think about what happened to the TBs in quite a few of cajunspongebob's caches that he archived on Monday... he had so many of them, I wonder if he's just leaving them there or picking up the actual caches?

 

 

If a cache is archived and there is a TB in it the owner of the TB gets a automated message from GC so they should know something is up and contact the cache owner.

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I have a wheel for a 1963 chevy nova ...could put a tb

on it then decide who to force it..excuse me...give it to......

Insert evil grin:)

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There used to be a folding lawn chair that was a TB. It would be left at events and the last to leave would have to deal with it.

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As Bobby hasn't seen most of hos caches in over three years, I doubt he plans to pick them up.

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I think this thread is good luck!!  One of the ones that I mentioned that had been sitting in the same cache for nearly 6 months was just retrieved!  By the same person who left it, no less.

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Kevin, I guess I tend be the same as you except my event to cache placement ration is more like 3 to 1. Again, unless I am really sure a cache is safe AND will be visited in the next two or three weeks I will not drop it. 

 

SIDE BAR:

I know it was off the point, but the dipping bit was very useful and it makes sense. With the BFF's overwhelming preference for series in big batches, I'm actually surprised someone never mentioned it to us.

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I tend to hang onto TB's for several months.  I'll dip them here or there or log them in and out of events so the owner knows I haven't lost them.  I also don't shy away from leaving trackables in caches, but I try to pick ones that don't appear to be at risk of being muggled.  Finding a cache big enough to put them in is another thing.

 

I agree on the distaste for TB's being dipped in every cache someone visits -- even when they're not mine.  I'll pick up a new trackable that has the goal to go to some certain cache or location then return "home".  I start going back through the logs to see if it has met it's goal yet and have to page through 35 pages of it being dipped in every cache the last cacher visited before I can see where it really has been before.  Same thing if I'm trying to see if I've already discovered a trackable.  "Yeah, I already discovered this one 6 weeks ago.  There's my log on page 126." :knuppel2:

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We are still new to caching in some aspects - and our processes are still evolving.  My kids love TBs but I have learned that we hang on to them way too long so I am trying to not take anymore.   Usually I keep them safe in a bag to be brought out to events but since we rarely see any caches bigger than a micro I don't drag them around with us when caching.  They are just too tempting for little fingers to play with (lose) so I keep them in my office.   We usually pick them up on vacations and then dump them in an event cache to pass them along.   The most important thing to me is to just not lose the little buggers! 

 

I really heard the note about remembering that they are not our TBs just because we are carrying them.  I had one I found in Rome I carried for probably 5 months because it was just so beautiful.  I loved to show it to people at events.  Finally I had to make myself give it up because it wasn't mine. (I feel like Bilbo with my Ring right now!) I am currently carrying a German Maus TB that we have had since September.  I guess I need to find a place to pass it along.  I did put a TB today in .jpeg's Hear It Is cache because it is the only one near me that is big enough and safe. 

 

The good thing is that R1 travels quite a bit and we log a LOT of miles on TBs.  Last month he took one from he found at IAH to Russia, back to TX then to the UK and left it there.  Not too shabby!  But of course, he didn't manage any photos which would have been neat.  We really need to work on photos. We worked really hard on that in the beginning but after not hearing a peep from the owners we gave it up. 

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We really need to work on photos. We worked really hard on that in the beginning but after not hearing a peep from the owners we gave it up.

Good point. Actually, it is rather unsatisfying, and sometimes a lot of work, to fulfill some of the trackable missions, i.e. photos at specific places, and see or hear nothing in return.

 

I guess there's karma?

 

Anyway, it takes a lot of effort sometimes, and its hard to know if the Trackable owner even cares. Not sure how they would show their appreciation anyway, except for that Golden Rule thing. Perhaps that's yet another aspect  of the game that I have not been schooled on properly.

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Dang, talk about anal.  Whoops (blushing!)

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I agree on the distaste for TB's being dipped in every cache someone visits -- even when they're not mine.  I'll pick up a new trackable that has the goal to go to some certain cache or location then return "home".  I start going back through the logs to see if it has met it's goal yet and have to page through 35 pages of it being dipped in every cache the last cacher visited before I can see where it really has been before.  Same thing if I'm trying to see if I've already discovered a trackable.  "Yeah, I already discovered this one 6 weeks ago.  There's my log on page 126." :knuppel2:

 

 

I'm surprised gc.com has not implemented a "discovered or moved on date X/X/X" like they show you found a cache or attended an event.  But wading through to see if a trackable has reached a goal can become tedious at best because of dipping.

 

 

 

 

 

 

We really need to work on photos. We worked really hard on that in the beginning but after not hearing a peep from the owners we gave it up.

Good point. Actually, it is rather unsatisfying, and sometimes a lot of work, to fulfill some of the trackable missions, i.e. photos at specific places, and see or hear nothing in return.

 

I guess there's karma?

 

Anyway, it takes a lot of effort sometimes, and its hard to know if the Trackable owner even cares. Not sure how they would show their appreciation anyway, except for that Golden Rule thing. Perhaps that's yet another aspect  of the game that I have not been schooled on properly.

 

 

I get a lot of space themed ones sent my way.  So I take them to Rocket Park for photos of the rockets an dip or place in an STS cache and upload the geoart.  If I go, I usually take all the bugs I have and do the same.  I often get e-mails from owners, especially owners overseas.  We forget that outside of the local are NASA is a big deal.  We take it for granted here.

 

Likewise, I usually drop a quick "Thanks for the photos" e-mail when someone posts pictures.

 

 

 

Dang, talk about anal.  Whoops (blushing!)

 

Bert, are you still talking about trackables?  Or is this the start of an entirely different conversation?  lol. 

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My four favorite TB's came up missing in the first several months of their short little lives (the last one came up missing after being dropped in the Texas Challenge event last year...go figure), which solidified my lack of desire to even deal with them any further.  The only TB's I have left in the wild are only alive because they made it outside the US to another country where they are being treated properly. I sometimes discover them in place and leave them in the cache they are already in, but sometimes I don't even do that. The only time I retrieve them is when they are in a cache where I am FTF and I'm unsure whether they are an FTF gift or not (and I'm going after another FTF so I don't want to stop and check online). Other than that, I don't even mess with them. Call me jaded.

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