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Newbies shooting from the hip

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"Found it but . . . Tether broke & dropped down into the tree! Maintenance needed."  this one just came in on one of cachestacker's caches.  Has anyone else noticed the flurry of Newbies throwing down the Needs maint and archive attributes lately?  I've had four in the last week and two were because they couldn't find them.

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no, and that STINKS!

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Well, legitimately, at that point it DID need maintenance.  Nobody could reach it.  The original is there.... but replacement was made immediately thereafter and restored to good, findable condition.

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yep.  I've noticed too (and was guilty when I was still a newbie at bad advice from a seasoned cacher and yes, BB, you called me out on it).  luckily tonight, cachestacker was within close walking distance to fix it.

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Well, I've noticed some 'Needs Mainenace' popping up by newbies too, but maybe it's better they log them this way then not logging their visit at all.... I know was guilty of that when I was a newbie.... Too humiliated to acknowledge publicly I couldn't find a cache ;)

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my needs maintenance logs are for things it needs... not because i couldn't find it.  missing/full log was what i was called out on, so now i carry spare logs with me.  not always every size in my cache bag if i haven't replaced what i replaced.  but if i post one these days, it's really because it needs maintenance.

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my needs maintenance logs are for things it needs... not because i couldn't find it.  missing/full log was what i was called out on, so now i carry spare logs with me.  not always every size in my cache bag if i haven't replaced what i replaced.  but if i post one these days, it's really because it needs maintenance.


Well, you're not a newbie anymore, so YOU know what you're doing!!!

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So what I am hearing here is that my assumption that after 40 caches I've seen it all and that any failure to finds are actually missing caches that need maintenance is wrong? Inconceivable! I reject your reality. :stirpot:

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Off topic, but here is a newbie showing us what its all about,
as she finds her first cache in a park in Taylor Lake Village. Edited by bbqbob2
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"Found it but . . . Tether broke & dropped down into the tree! Maintenance needed."  this one just came in on one of cachestacker's caches.  Has anyone else noticed the flurry of Newbies throwing down the Needs maint and archive attributes lately?  I've had four in the last week and two were because they couldn't find them.

 

At first I misread your subject line as "Shooting newbies from the hip" 8)  

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"Found it but . . . Tether broke & dropped down into the tree! Maintenance needed."  this one just came in on one of cachestacker's caches.  Has anyone else noticed the flurry of Newbies throwing down the Needs maint and archive attributes lately?  I've had four in the last week and two were because they couldn't find them.

 

At first I misread your subject line as "Shooting newbies from the hip" 8)  

 

 

That's what micros are for.

 

We found our first micro yesterday outside the Museum of Health Sciences.  I'm not sure that could be any smaller and have a log.

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That's what micros are for.

 

We found our first micro yesterday outside the Museum of Health Sciences.  I'm not sure that could be any smaller and have a log.

 

 

 

i know that one!  and yes, they can get smaller....

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That's what micros are for.

 

We found our first micro yesterday outside the Museum of Health Sciences.  I'm not sure that could be any smaller and have a log.

 

 

 

i know that one!  and yes, they can get smaller....

 

 

Sounds fun and yet awful at the same time.

 

I just want to go on record saying I don't like micros. We need more ammo can caches!

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micros are good for some things.  like urban areas.  can't hide an ammo can very well in a shopping or museum area.  and it's nice to be able to pick them up easily while you're out shopping or doing touristy things or with family, etc.  gets you a smiley and you don't have to get full of chigger bites doing it.  or in my case, i can stay dressed from work and go caching, but i have been known to be in the dirt and woods in a dress.

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micros are good for some things.  like urban areas.  can't hide an ammo can very well in a shopping or museum area.  and it's nice to be able to pick them up easily while you're out shopping or doing touristy things or with family, etc.  gets you a smiley and you don't have to get full of chigger bites doing it.  or in my case, i can stay dressed from work and go caching, but i have been known to be in the dirt and woods in a dress.

 

I get the stealth aspect of the micro but the problem is that it complicates the discovery aspect, which makes the person searching look even more suspicious.  You know the cache I was referring to so I felt crazy shady searching all over the fence line for that one.  You can only tie your cowboys boots so many times before people start to wonder.

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micros are good for some things.  like urban areas.  can't hide an ammo can very well in a shopping or museum area.  and it's nice to be able to pick them up easily while you're out shopping or doing touristy things or with family, etc.  gets you a smiley and you don't have to get full of chigger bites doing it.  or in my case, i can stay dressed from work and go caching, but i have been known to be in the dirt and woods in a dress.

 

I get the stealth aspect of the micro but the problem is that it complicates the discovery aspect, which makes the person searching look even more suspicious.  You know the cache I was referring to so I felt crazy shady searching all over the fence line for that one.  You can only tie your cowboys boots so many times before people start to wonder.

 

 

funny enough, i did stoop down to "tie" my shoe and found it on the first try (while i was still a newbie).  the person who was with me that day actually tied my shoe for me while i signed the log and replaced it.  helped it was early on a saturday morning before most people were out and about.

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So what I am hearing here is that my assumption that after 40 caches I've seen it all and that any failure to finds are actually missing caches that need maintenance is wrong? Inconceivable! I reject your reality. :stirpot:

 

jrj8541 - I do believe that you'll fit into our caching family very nicely!    Very nicely indeed!!     :D

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This one just in by newbies with 6 finds: GC4JFXK

    "Pretty sure hubby and I found the right spot with the hint. There was blue tape but nothing attached to it, so I'm guessing it fell down or was muggled."

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We have several caches that are quite a hike to get to, so I cringe when I see the notes saying we need to go check it.  It's possible that we do, but a DNF would be sufficient.  Cachers shouldn't have the expectation that we are going to just keep going to check everytime that they can't find it in the middle of the summer for the really long hikes.   I think that we are pretty good at trying to maintain our caches, but we don't want to spend all of our free time chasing single DNFs of newbies..

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We have several caches that are quite a hike to get to, so I cringe when I see the notes saying we need to go check it.  It's possible that we do, but a DNF would be sufficient.  Cachers shouldn't have the expectation that we are going to just keep going to check everytime that they can't find it in the middle of the summer for the really long hikes.   I think that we are pretty good at trying to maintain our caches, but we don't want to spend all of our free time chasing single DNFs of newbies..

Which ones are those so I can go ahead and write a big fat DNF and CO needs to go check on these! :stirpot:

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micros are good for some things.  like urban areas.  can't hide an ammo can very well in a shopping or museum area.  and it's nice to be able to pick them up easily while you're out shopping or doing touristy things or with family, etc.  gets you a smiley and you don't have to get full of chigger bites doing it.  or in my case, i can stay dressed from work and go caching, but i have been known to be in the dirt and woods in a dress.

 

I get the stealth aspect of the micro but the problem is that it complicates the discovery aspect, which makes the person searching look even more suspicious.  You know the cache I was referring to so I felt crazy shady searching all over the fence line for that one.  You can only tie your cowboys boots so many times before people start to wonder.

 

 

funny enough, i did stoop down to "tie" my shoe and found it on the first try (while i was still a newbie).  the person who was with me that day actually tied my shoe for me while i signed the log and replaced it.  helped it was early on a saturday morning before most people were out and about.

 

 

 

This thread can turn into a whole 'nother conversation; as in: "how many times can you "tie your shoe" and not look too suspicious?" or, better yet, what are your other "completely natural poses in this unnatural search" techniques to fit in in high muggle areas?

 

All this talk about this is reminding me of this DNF where close encounters with the kindergarden kind was a call of the territory.

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Over the last few days in Baytown, two of my caches and one of HoustonControl's were "hip-shot". One very difficult find was somehow located by a group of 5-6 ("Found it tonight with the cousins!")and placed in plain view for the next finder. I suspected these newbies had been tipped off by the simplicity of their log and went straight out and returned it to its original position.

They are very new. Here's the next time and I will have to repair this (up in a tree) tonight:

"My son's girlfriend found it! But....she didnt know any better and ripped it from string. Sorry! We put it back as much as we could!"

HC's goes like this, and it is by the same crowd: "Thanks for the great find, sorry for using another method to hang from tree. We are a bunch of first timers lol"

Then they double logged one of WTT-B2's caches and credited me for the "good hide" on another that I don't own. Their real total is 10 and out of that, they've moved or damaged 3. I hope they either catch on (cache on) or move on soon. :)
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At least they're letting you know they mangled the hide and are expressing some remorse. My beef is mainly with the silent "TFTC." cache manglers. Since we have migrated to Premium only, these occur much less frequently now, but traffic also is lower.

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Can non-premium members with Smartphones see the cache? I heard they could.

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