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#661 Lefty Writer

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Posted 18 August 2011 - 12:49 PM

It'll be cool seeing a 787 in "company" colors, even with the U-word instead of Continental on the side.

I assume there's no interest in acquiring more pigs, even if Boeing re-engines them?
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Posted 18 August 2011 - 08:15 PM

It'll be cool seeing a 787 in "company" colors, even with the U-word instead of Continental on the side.

I assume there's no interest in acquiring more pigs, even if Boeing re-engines them?


No, we're still getting a bunch of new ones with more efficient engines on them...we're supposed to get 26 new ones next year, of which 5 or 6 are 787s....or something like that...

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Posted 18 August 2011 - 10:35 PM

"Customers will experience improved lighting, bigger windows, larger overhead bins, increased cabin humidity, reduced cabin pressure and enhanced ventilation systems, among other passenger-friendly features."

Sounds nice, but I wonder how reduced cabin pressure is a passenger-friendly feature?  Typically, at altitude, cabin pressure is kept equal to what one would experience at about 8000'.  It would seem that lowering that pressure to be equivilent to 9000 or 10,000' would cause increased discomfort to those on board -- more ear-popping, etc.  What am I missing?  ???
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Posted 18 August 2011 - 11:57 PM

Cannot go much more than 8,000 ft.  People start going hypoxic (lack of oxygen)at anything over 10,000 ft.  I am thinking that must be a typo.  Should read increased cabin pressure.

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Posted 19 August 2011 - 12:07 AM

Cannot go much more than 8,000 ft.  People start going hypoxic (lack of oxygen)at anything over 10,000 ft.  I am thinking that must be a typo.  Should read increased cabin pressure.

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I think you're probably right on the typo.  FAR 91.211 requires the flight crew to wear supplemental oxygen at cabin pressures above 12,500 feet.
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Posted 19 August 2011 - 12:10 AM

Is it 12,500?  When I was doing some hypoxia training with NASA we were required to wear them when we were above (simulated) 10,000.  I just assumed that NASA and the FAA used the same number (silly me).

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Posted 19 August 2011 - 12:11 AM


Cannot go much more than 8,000 ft.  People start going hypoxic (lack of oxygen)at anything over 10,000 ft.  I am thinking that must be a typo.  Should read increased cabin pressure.

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I think you're probably right on the typo.  FAR 91.211 requires the flight crew to wear supplemental oxygen at cabin pressures above 12,500 feet.


Either it was a typo or a marketing person who did not understand the product they were trying to sell.

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Posted 19 August 2011 - 06:28 AM

"Customers will experience improved lighting, bigger windows, larger overhead bins, increased cabin humidity, reduced cabin pressure and enhanced ventilation systems, among other passenger-friendly features."

Sounds nice, but I wonder how reduced cabin pressure is a passenger-friendly feature?  Typically, at altitude, cabin pressure is kept equal to what one would experience at about 8000'.  It would seem that lowering that pressure to be equivilent to 9000 or 10,000' would cause increased discomfort to those on board -- more ear-popping, etc.  What am I missing?  ???


That was badly worded by Whomever...you guys are taking it the wrong direction because of that misstatement....so, from what I've learned, it'll be 6000ft cabin altitude instead of 8000ft....it'll even be less dry, too.....

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Posted 19 August 2011 - 06:55 AM

So it will be just about like living in Denver.  That would be nice.

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Posted 19 August 2011 - 07:47 AM

Better than Colorado Springs....

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Posted 19 August 2011 - 02:38 PM

OK, so I was nit-picking.  Anyhoo, sounds like a nice ride and I'd be very interested in the extra legroom in some of those Economy Plus seats, if the price isn't too high.  O0


FAR 91.211 -- and the 12,500' rule is only for durations of 30 minutes or more.  Oxygen is required full-time above 14,000 feet.  Of course there's nothing preventing it's use at lower altitudes, for safety reasons.
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Posted 19 August 2011 - 02:41 PM

too bad they aren't likely to go anywhere i want to go... unless Bruce has a launch party for CacheSense in NZ!
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Posted 31 August 2011 - 06:14 AM

Hey Lefty!

Mrs. OSC sent me this link...pretty spot on, but I did come up with a response for each one:

http://www.moneytalk...-probably-dont/

#1 – FlightAware is a good tool…I don’t know how many pilots really use it but it wouldn’t surprise me to know a lot did…
#2 – They used to tell the First Officers and flight attendants at Continental Express not to show up to get food stamps in uniform….(this was back in 1993...)
#3 – The odds are low that it’s the FO’s first flight but sure, it could happen…what they’re not saying is it could be the Captain’s first flight as Captain….but there’s a rule that prohibits a new Captain and new FO on the same flight….due to an accident….
#4 – Not only pilots but a lot of people in the back…and I’ve used my GPSr in the cockpit before….  :-X
#5 -  A little overstated because it sounds like people are flying around on commercial airliners to places without towers….the fact is, where commercial airliners go, there’s a 99% (or greater) there’s a tower and an instrument approach.  For General Aviation (GA), or, the little airplanes, the fact is true – there are not a lot of towers….

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Posted 31 August 2011 - 07:46 AM

Thanks for not only the link, but your comments, OSC! It's always interesting hearing an insider's view of stuff like this.

Not sure if you've seen these photos I uploaded on FB (in the Athens Scuba Park album), but in case you haven't, and for those that don't do FB, here are a few that are appropriate for this thread.

They are from a Hawker-Beech BH-125 (N600MK).



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Posted 31 August 2011 - 11:21 PM

Back when I did most of my flying, I avoided airports with towers.  Too hectic and nerve-wracking and too many frequency changes!  :P
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Posted 09 September 2011 - 04:43 PM

Hey Lefty!

These were posted on my alma mater's website (well, I didn't go to law school but it's still Rutgers...):

http://www.rutgersla...cial/911/Audio/

http://www.rutgersla...dio-transcript/

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Posted 13 September 2011 - 09:33 AM

Hey Lefty!

Here's a pretty good accounting from a pilot's perspective on that fateful day....

http://suzyrice.com/...urnal-from-911/

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Posted 14 September 2011 - 08:24 AM

Thanks for all these cool links! They've been most enlightening....
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Posted 16 September 2011 - 06:47 PM

This is not going to be good!

http://www.mynews4.c...tz4QsIoZ1A.cspx

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Posted 21 September 2011 - 07:36 AM

This is not going to be good!

http://www.mynews4.c...tz4QsIoZ1A.cspx


One of my friends and co-workers who I've known for about 15 years was one of the fallen at the show.  He lived in Friendswood and leaves behind a wife and two small children.

I'll miss him greatly.  :'(

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